SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC SE8650 Thermostat Installation Guide

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SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC SE8650 Thermostat

SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC SE8650 Thermostat-FIG1

Roof Top Unit (RTU), Heat Pump and Indoor Air Quality (IAQ) Firmware Revision 2.5.1

SAFETY INFORMATION

IMPORTANT INFORMATION
Read these instructions carefully and inspect the equipment to become familiar with the device before trying to install, operate, service or maintain it. The following special messages may appear throughout this bulletin or on the equipment to warn of potential hazards or to call attention to information that clarifies or simplifies a procedure.

  • The addition of this symbol to a “Danger” or “Warning” safety label indicates that an electrical hazard exists which will result in personal injury if the instructions are not followed.
  • This is the safety alert symbol. It is used to alert you to potential personal injury hazards. Obey all safety messages that follow this symbol to avoid possible injury or death.
  • DANGER
    DANGER indicates a hazardous situation which, if not avoided, will result in death or serious injury.
  • WARNING
    WARNING indicates a hazardous situation which, if not avoided, could result in death or serious injury.
  • CAUTION
    CAUTION indicates a hazardous situation which, if not avoided, could result in minor or moderate injury.
  • NOTICE
    NOTICE is used to address practices not related to physical injury. The safety alert symbol shall not be used with this signal word.

PLEASE NOTE
Electrical equipment should be installed, operated, serviced, and maintained only by qualified personnel. No responsibility is assumed by Schneider Electric for any consequences arising out of the use of this material.
A qualified person is one who has skills and knowledge related to the construction, installation, and operation of electrical equipment and has received safety training to recognize and avoid the hazards involved.

BEFORE YOU BEGIN

LOSS OF CONTROL

WARNING

  • The designer of any control scheme must consider the potential failure modes of control paths and, for certain critical control functions, provide a means to achieve a safe state during and after a path failure. Examples of critical control functions are emergency stop and over travel stop.
  • Separate or redundant control paths must be provided for critical control functions.
  • System control paths may include communication links. Consideration must be given to the implications of anticipated transmission delays or failures of the link.1
  • Each implementation of equipment utilizing communication links must be individually and thoroughly tested for proper operation before being placed into service.
    Failure to follow these instructions can result in death, serious injury, or equipment damage.

ELECTROSTATIC DISCHARGE

NOTICE

STATIC SENSITIVE COMPONENTS
Circuit boards and option cards can be damaged by static electricity. Observe the electrostatic precautions below when handling controller circuit boards or testing components.
Failure to follow these instructions can result in equipment damage.

Observe the following precautions for handling static-sensitive components

  • Keep static-producing material such as plastic, upholstery, and carpeting out of the immediate work area.
  • Store static-sensitive components in protective packaging when they are not installed in the drive.
  • When handling a static-sensitive component, wear a conductive wrist strap connected to the component or drive through a minimum of 1 megohm resistance.
  • Avoid touching exposed conductors and components leads with skin or clothing.

INSTALLATION

NOTICE

  • The system must be installed correctly by a qualified technician.
  • If replacing an existing Room Controller, label wires before removal of the Controller.
  • Electronic controls are static sensitive devices. Discharge yourself correctly before manipulating and installing Room Controller.
  • A short circuit or wrong wiring may permanently damage the Room Controller or equipment.
  • All Room Controllers are designed for use as operating controls only and are not safety devices. Tampering with the devices or unintended application of the devices will result in a void of warranty.
  • This device must be installed to provide a separation distance of at least 8in (20cm) from all persons and must not be located or operating in conjunction with any other antenna or transmitter.
  • Refer to the Room Controller User Interface Guide for information on how to configure the Room Controller.
    Failure to follow these instructions can result in equipment damage.
    For additional information about anticipated transmission delays or failures of the link, refer to NEMA ICS 1.1 (latest edition), Safety Guidelines for the Application, Installation, and Maintenance of Solid State Control or its equivalent

UNAUTHORIZED USB ACCESS

NOTICE

To prevent unauthorized access to the Room Controller via USB, it is recommended that

  • ”USB access” is set to “Disabled” to prevent changing of firmware, standby image, configuration or LUA scripts via USB.
  • ”Main password” is set to a non-zero value to limit configuration menu access to authorized users only.
    Failure to follow these instructions may lead to unauthorized users modifying the firmware or the configuration of the Room Controller.

UNAUTHORIZED USB ACCESS

NOTICE

To prevent unauthorized access to the Room Controller via USB, it is recommended that:

  • ”USB access” is set to “Disabled” to prevent changing of firmware, standby image, configuration or LUA scripts via USB.
  • ”Main password” is set to a non-zero value to limit configuration menu access to authorized users only.
    Failure to follow these instructions may lead to unauthorized users modifying the firmware or the configuration of the Room Controller.

LOCATION

NOTICE

  • Do not install on an exterior wall.
  • Do not install behind a door.
  • Do not install in areas with a direct heat source.
  • Do not install near any air discharge grill.
  • Do not install in areas exposed to direct sunlight.
  • Ensure the Room Controller has sufficient natural air circulation.
  • Ensure the wall surface is flat and clean.
  • Ensure external thermal sensor wirings are away from noisy electrical sources.
  • Install 1.3 to 1.5 meters (52 to 60 inches) above the floor.
  • Perform preventive maintenance on the damper and Variable Air Volume (VAV) box, according to the supplier documentation.
    Failure to follow these instructions can result in equipment damage.

CLEANING THE ROOM CONTROLLER

NOTICE

  • Use a soft, pre-moistened lint-free cloth for cleaning.
  • Avoid getting moisture in openings.
  • Do not spray anything directly on the Room Controller or use compressed air.
  • Do not use caustic/corrosive products, ammonia, solvents or any cleaning product containing alcohol or grit.
  • Never use tools directly on the touchscreen.
  • Never use paint on the Room Controller.
  • Do not drop or crush the Room Controller, or allow it to come into contact with liquids.
  • Do not use a damaged device (such as one with a cracked screen).
    Failure to comply with these recommendations will result in damage to the unit and void the manufacturer’s warranty.

INSTALLATION

  1. Remove the security screw (if any) on the bottom of the Room Controller cover.
  2. Open unit by pulling on the bottom side of the Room Controller (Figure 1).
  3. Read FCC ID and IC label installed in the cover before installing any wireless product.
  4.  Ensure correct side of base faces up.
  5.  Pull cables 6in (15cm) out from the wall.
  6.  Align base and mark location of two mounting holes on wall (Figure 2).
  7. Install anchors in the wall.
  8. Insert cable in the central hole of the base.
  9. Insert screws in mounting holes on each side of the base.
  10.  Strip each wire 1/4in (0.6cm) from the end.
  11.  Insert each wire and screw according to the wiring chart.
  12.  Gently push excess wiring back into the hole.
  13.  Gently align the cover to the top of the base and snap in place from the bottom (Figure 3).
  14.  Install the security screw.SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC SE8650 Thermostat-FIG2

TERMINAL IDENTIFICATION AND FUNCTION

SpaceLogic SE8650

Description / Application

 

Used in applications

IAQ, HP & RTU
Internal Temperature X
1- BO1 Aux
2- BO2 Y2
3- BO3 Y1
4- BO4 G
5- RC RC (24 Vac)
6- C Common
7- RH RH
8- BO8 W1
9- UO9 W2 / OB
10- UO10 Econo (0-10 Vdc)
11- UO11 Heat (0-10 Vdc), set “Heat Stages” to 0 to enable
12- UO12 Dehumidification output (24 Vac On/Off)
13- RS485 + BACnet (+)
14- RS485 – BACnet (-)
15- RS485 Ref BACnet Ref. (do not sire shield in this terminal)
16- UI16 UI16 (multifunction input)
17- UI17 UI17 (multifunction input)
18-Scom Common
19- UI19 CO2 (0-10 Vdc input)
20- UI20 RS (Remote sensor input 10K, type 2 thermistor)
21-Scom Common
22- UI22 SS (Supply sensor input 10K, type 2 thermistor)
23- UI23 OS (Outside sensor input 10K, type 2 thermistor)
24- UI24 Airflow (0-10 Vdc input)

REMOTE SENSOR ACCESSORIES

Model no. Description
S3010W1031 Wall-mounted temperature sensor
S3020W1031 Wall-mounted temperature sensor with override button and occupancy status LED

NOTE:
If one or multiple sensor(s) is/are connected to the RS terminal, the internal temperature sensor is automatically disabled. Disconnecting the sensor(s) in the RS terminal will re-activate the internal sensor.
Remote mount temperature sensor inputs use 10K type 2 NTC thermistors.

Features:

Each sensor can be configured for various averaging combinations. Refer to S3000 series remote sensors for more details.

Temperature vs. resistance chart for 10 Kohm NTC thermistor (R25°C = 10KΩ±3%, B25/85°C = 3975K±1.5%)

ºC ºF Kohm ºC ºF Kohm ºC ºF Kohm ºC ºF Kohm ºC ºF Kohm
-40 -40 324.3197 -20 -4 94.5149 0 32 32.1910 20 68 12.4601 40 104 5.3467
-35 -31 234.4009 -15 5 71.2430 5 41 25.1119 25 77 10.0000 45 113 4.3881
-30 -22 171.3474 -10 14 54.1988 10 50 19.7390 30 86 8.0694 50 122 3.6202
-25 -13 126.6109 -5 23 41.5956 15 59 15.6286 35 95 6.5499 55 131 3.0016

TYPICAL APPLICATIONS

RTU: 2 HEATING / 2 COOLING

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RTU: 2 COOLING / MODULATING HEAT

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2 COMPRESSORS, AUXILIARY HEAT AND ECONOMIZE

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HOME SCREEN DISPLAY

TYPICAL HOSPITALITY USER INTERFACE SHOWN

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NOTE: User HMI is configurable and allows display functions such as Outdoor Temperature, Setpoint, and other buttons to be enabled or disabled by setting various parameters in the setup screens.

HOW TO ENTER SET-UP SCREEN

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SET-UP SCREEN DISPLAY

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APPENDIX A. TERMINAL CORRESPONDENCE
The terminals of a SE8650 are identified differently and have a wider range of possible functions compared to those of any of the SE7000 Room Controllers. Nonetheless, there is a direct correspondence of functions between the terminals of the SE7000 and the SE8650. Consult the table below to verify the appropriate terminal when replacing a SE7000 Room Controller with a SE8650 Room Controller.

SE7000 SE8650
Terminal name Terminal ID Terminal name Terminal ID
Binary Input 1 BI1 Universal Input 16 UI16
Binary Input 2 BI2 Universal Input 17 UI17
Universal Input 3 UI3 Universal Input 19 UI19
Sensor Common Scom Terminal 18 Common COM
Remote Sensor RS Universal Input 20 UI20 – RS
Sensor Common Scom Terminal 21 Common COM
Mix/Supply Sensor MS Universal Input 22 UI22 – SS

APPENDIX B. POWER OUTAGE CLOCK RESET
In the event of a power outage, Room Controllers retain the correct time as long as the duration of the power outage is not prolonged.
Depending on the duration of the power outage, the Room Controllers’ internal clock may need to be updated or reset completely. The following table indicates the expected clock performance after a power outage of a given duration.

Outage duration Room Controller behavior
0 – 24 hours Clock functions are normal
24 – 36 hours Clock accuracy not guaranteed, time may need to be adjusted
36 – 72 hours Clock no longer increments and must be adjusted when power is restored.
72+ hours Clock functions are fully reset, and must be reinitialized as per a new installation.

APPENDIX C. DEPLOYMENT
The placement of the Room Controller must be given consideration. It is recommended to install the Room Controller as close to a door as possible (without being blocked by the door), or in an area with high occupant movement.
Ideally, the Room Controller should be installed 5 feet (1.5 meters) above the floor surface to ensure maximum detection range is achieved. As well, Room Controller placement should ensure the occupant crosses the lens beam in a perpendicular path within the prescribed detection zone.

EXAMPLE OF RECOMMENDED DEPLOYMENT
The below shows Room Controllers installed in ideal locations for two rooms.
The examination room shows one Room Controller installed adjacent to the door. In this area of the room, occupant traffic is high and ensures the occupant will almost always cross the PIR detection path laterally and within the detection range.
The waiting room shows one Room Controller installed beside a door in the middle of the room. As shown in the diagram below, occupant traffic is high in several areas of the room including the entrance, waiting room, access to the door and activity around the reception desk.

SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC SE8650 Thermostat-FIG9

 EXAMPLE OF NON-RECOMMENDED DEPLOYMENT
The below shows four Room Controllers (two for each room) installed in non-ideal locations for the two rooms.
The examination room shows one Room Controller installed in a low traffic area near the door, and a second Room Controller installed on the wall directly opposite the door. For the Room Controller installed in the corner wall, the PIR could be blocked by the opened door, while occupant traffic could also be minimal in this area of the room. For the second Room Controller installed opposite the door, the PIR detection could fall outside the specified detection zone, while at the same time most occupant movement would not be lateral to the PIR, thereby not respecting optimal crossing patterns for PIR detection.
The waiting room shows one Room Controller installed in the corner of the room, and a second Room Controller installed beside the reception area. For the Room Controller installed in the corner, the opening/closing of the door creates a high probability that the PIR would get blocked, and therefore, occupancy going undetected. For the Room Controller installed beside the reception area, occupant traffic could fall outside the detection zone, and the receptionist would often be below the 5-foot recommended installation height for the Room Controller.

SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC SE8650 Thermostat-FIG10

ROOM CONTROLLER PIR SENSOR DETAILS
The internal Room Controller PIR sensor only detects lateral movement. It cannot detect movement when a person is moving toward it. It will not detect someone seating on a chair and/or lying on the bed.

SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC SE8650 Thermostat-FIG11

RECOMMENDATIONS FOR INSTALLATIONS

  1. Install the Room Controller to cover more lateral movement.
  2. Install a door sensor, the internal Room Controller occupancy logic works better with a door sensor. Once a motion is detected after a door is opened, the room stays in an occupied state until the door is opened again which puts the Room Controller in stand-by mode and if there is a motion then it goes back in occupied mode. It is also recommended to disable the unoccupied mode, set the “unoccupied time” to 0, so there are only 2 modes in the Room Controller: stand-by and occupied for a stand-alone solution. Please refer to the two(2) diagrams below for the Room Controller internal occupancy states transitionSCHNEIDER ELECTRIC SE8650 Thermostat-FIG12
  3. Install additional motion sensors in the bathroom.
  4. Install additional motion sensors for better motion detection in the entire room.

ENERGY SAVINGS
PIR can maximize your energy saving from 10-30% by adjusting temperature set points in unoccupied zones during scheduled periods.

SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC SE8650 Thermostat-FIG13

APPENDIX D. CALIFORNIA PROPOSITION 65 WARNING STATEMENT FOR CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS
WARNING: This product can expose you to chemicals including Lead, which is known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm, and Bisphenol A (BPA), which is known to the State of California to cause birth defects or other reproductive harm. For more information, go to www.P65Warnings.ca.gov.

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